Smashing Pumpkins’ Jeff Schroeder on the Time He Met Eddie Van Halen

Author Erica Banas // Rock Music Reporter

October 30th, 2020 4:07 PM

Smashing Pumpkins’ Jeff Schroeder is one of many guitarists looking back on the late Eddie Van Halen, and he has one incredible story of meeting the guitar icon.

In an appearance on Talkin’ Rock with Meltdown, Schroeder said, “I have a funny story about him, because I actually luckily got to meet him and spend some time with him one time. He spent probably about a good hour with Billy [Corgan] and I, which is really cool. He came to one of our shows in 2012 on the Oceania tour. How it happened is I had a guitar tech, who was a fine guitar tech. But for some reason, we were supposed to start a Canadian tour, and he had to all of a sudden go back home, like the day before the first show starts. So, we’re really scrambling to find somebody.”

He continued, “…Our production manager calls some friends, and he said, ‘You know what? Van Halen is just getting home from tour. Ed’s guitar tech is at 5150 [Studios] right now setting up his rig since Eddie is home. The guy can be on a plane tomorrow morning up to Edmonton where the first gig was. So, I literally went from having no guitar tech to Eddie Van Halen’s guitar tech, Craig DeFalco, who came in and just nailed the gig from day one.”

Schroeder added, “He was just the greatest guy, and we got along really well. He was like, ‘When we play L.A., I’m going to invite Eddie to the show.’ And I’m like, ‘Yeah, right. He probably won’t even come.’ Eddie totally came. He hung out with us for an hour before the show. He let us all ask him a bunch of stupid questions. We were all geeking out. Like, ‘Did you ever see Jimmy Page play?’ He was like, ‘Yeah, I saw Zeppelin. I didn’t think Jimmy was that great live.’ Then we were like, ‘What about Ritchie Blackmore?’ And he was like, ‘Yeah, he’s okay.’ We had to remember, ‘Oh, yeah, we’re talking to Eddie Van Halen.’ He probably wasn’t that intimidated by those guys!”

He concluded, “He was a total sweetheart, and [he asked me] ‘Have you had a chance to try one of my new Wolfgang guitars?’ I said, ‘No,’ and he said, ‘I’m going to send you one.’ And like, two days later, I got this super great, top of the line EVH guitar…I still have it. It’s a great guitar.”

Smashing Pumpkins’ new album Cyr comes out November 27 and is currently available for pre-order/pre-save here.

Van Halen: Their 30 Best Songs, Ranked

• 30. “Dirty Movies” – ‘Fair Warning’ (1981)

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  One thing that doesn’t get discussed enough about Van Halen is how funky they could be. This song, about a prom-queen-turned-porn-star, features one of Van Halen’s deepest grooves, courtesy of Michael Anthony and Alex Van Halen, but it’s Eddie’s evocative leads and riffing (along with Dave being Dave) that really makes the song work.

• 29. “Happy Trails” – ‘Diver Down’ (1982)

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  A song by Roy Rogers and Dale Evans that Van Halen covered as a one minute long acapella jam for their most uneven album, this might not have ranked as one of their best songs before October 6, 2020. But if you were putting together your own Van Halen mix today, this would be a great final track, and it definitely sounds different now that Eddie is gone. It also showed that not only were the band members great instrumentalists, they were great vocalists as well.

• 28. “Ice Cream Man” – ‘Van Halen’ (1978)

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  Like all other hard rock bands from the ’60s and ‘70s, Van Halen was influenced by all forms of blues. But Van Halen had more fun with it than most, as evidenced here. Dave would play the acoustic guitar at the beginning of the song, starting it out solo, but the band kicked in and Eddie came in hot with one of his greatest solos. The end where Dave and Eddie are dueling with their instruments, is just a blast.
• 27. “Right Now” – ‘For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge’ (1991)

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  It’s difficult for a hard rock band to grow up and Van Halen were one of the few who were able to pull it off gracefully. Let’s be honest -- they wouldn’t have been able to do it without Sammy Hagar. But the band evolved as songwriters and players. This socially conscious song was built on an amazing Eddie Van Halen piano riff, but it also included one of his many incredible solos.

• 26. “Intruder/(Oh) Pretty Woman” – ‘Diver Down’ (1982)

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  Van Halen were, of course, a great songwriting team, as this list attests to. But they were also amazing song interpreters. They kicked off their career with a supercharged version of the Kinks’ “You Really Got Me,” but their unexpected take on Roy Orbison’s “(Oh) Pretty Woman” is nearly as iconic.

• 25. “Finish What Ya Started” – OU812 (1988)

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  When the Eddie Van Halen/Sammy Hagar team worked, it *really* worked. The two of them worked this song out on two guitars in the wee hours of the morning and it sounds like it. This song sounds unlike anything else VH ever did; Eddie’s playing, even without distortion, is fantastic.
• 24. “Little Dreamer” – ‘Van Halen’ (1978)

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  David Lee Roth reminds us that he can sing on this song, and his lyrics are a bit more empathetic than usual: “And then they went and they voted you/Least likely to succeed/I had to tell them baby you were armed with/All you'd need.” As flashy as Eddie could be, he knew how to let the song breathe; his playing during the verses dances around Roth’s narration. Of course, he also gets his time to shine on his wailing solo.

• 23. “Best Of Both Worlds” – ‘5150’ (1986)

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  ‘5150,’ Van Halen’s first album with Sammy Hagar, made a strong case that the band’s second iteration would be as strong as the first, and this song was a big reason why. Eddie played a monster riff during the chorus, and his playing glided through the verses. And it’s one of Sammy’s best VH performances.

• 22. “Feel Your Love Tonight” – ‘Van Halen’ (1978)

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  An ode to teenage horniness; as always, Eddie, Alex and Michael’s playing was great but the real star is the interplay of their backing vocals with Dave’s leads. As with “Happy Trails,” it makes a good case that Van Halen could have been a great doo-wop group in a different era.
• 21. “Summer Nights” – ‘5150’ (1986)

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  With the addition of Sammy Hagar, it was clear that Van Halen could do a lot more, stylistically, and they weren’t going to stick with just party jams. But they weren’t going to ditch them, either, as they pointed out with “Summer Nights.” And obviously, Eddie still had riffs for days.

• 20. “Atomic Punk” – ‘Van Halen’ (1978)

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  “I am the ruler of these nether worlds/The underground/On every wall and place my fearsome name is hear/Just look around, whoa yeee-ah!” It sounds like something Black Sabbath might have cooked up. The opening interplay between Eddie’s guitar scratching (reminiscent of “Voodoo Chile” by his idol Jimi Hendrix) and Alex’s cymbals is hair raising. Which Eddie Van Halen solo is the best one? Tough to say, but this one kind of defines “face-melting.”

• 19. “Dreams” – ‘5150’ (1986)

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  Another example of a Hagar-era classic that just wouldn’t have been possible with Van Halen’s original lineup. Here, it’s Sammy’s vocals that take center stage, but Eddie’s keyboards drive the song. Of course, Eddie steps away from the keys for a bit to blow our minds with a solo.
• 18. “So This Is Love?” – ‘Fair Warning’ (1981)

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  Give the bass player some! This is one of Michael Anthony’s funkiest performances; it almost sounds like something a jazz or blues band could have done in a prohibition-era speakeasy, and you could certainly imagine Roth performing in those snarky vocals in a dark, seedy joint. It’s Eddie’s guitar and Alex’s drums that bring it to the ‘80s; of course, it still sounds amazing today, and it always will.

• 17. “Jamie’s Cryin’” – ‘Van Halen’ (1978)

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  Roth showed empathy for the lead character in “Little Dreamer,” and he also did it on “Jamie’s Cryin’.” “Now Jamie's been in love before/And she knows what love is for/It should mean, a little, a little more/Than one-night stands.” Of course, many of his songs actually were about one-night stands, but here he shows some feeling for the person on the other end of a tryst.

• 16. “Dance The Night Away” – ‘Van Halen II’ (1979)

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  One thing that set Van Halen apart from their rivals was their ability to write a perfect pop song, and a danceable one at that. Here’s another great example of Eddie Van Halen getting out of the way of the song.
• 15. “Panama” – ‘1984’ (1984)

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  After hearing the lead single from ‘1984,’ “Jump,” fans might have worried that Van Halen was ditching hard rock. No such luck: this ode to fast cars was a guitar-driven masterpiece.

• 14. “I’m The One” – ‘Van Halen’ (1978)

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  More than forty years later, this song is still mindblowing; at parts, it’s nearly as fast as speed metal, at other parts it sounds like cabaret. And they slip into doo-wop/acapella mode for good measure, just to show you that they can do it. One of the most underrated songs in the VH catalog.

• 13. “Somebody Get Me A Doctor” – ‘Van Halen II’ (1979)

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  The “woo-woo!” at 1:24, going into Eddie’s solo is perfect, as is Eddie guitar fill at 2:09. You can hear how much fun they’re having here and it’s infectious.
• 12. “Hot For Teacher” – ‘1984’ (1984)

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  Alex Van Halen is the star here; his drumming on this song is as iconic and instantly recognizable as any of Eddie’s guitar work. Of course, Eddie’s guitar here is stellar. Even though it was their last album with David Lee Roth (for a few decades), they were firing on all cylinders And not only on the song but on the video, which was their last with Roth and certainly their best.

• 11. “Everybody Wants Some!!” – ‘Women And Children First’ (1980)

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  Now, sure...we just gushed about Alex Van Halen’s drumming in the previous entry, but we’d be remiss if we didn’t do the same on “Everybody Wants Some!!” While not as frenetic as “Hot For Teacher,” the lengthy drum intro on “Everybody Wants Some!!” is just as infectious, as is its chorus.

• 10. “Little Guitars (Intro)/Little Guitars” – ‘Diver Down’ (1982)

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  ‘Diver Down’ is generally thought of as the most uneven of the first six Van Halen albums, but most other bands would kill for an album that good. “Little Guitars” is the best original on the album; Eddie’s acoustic intro is even more intense than “Spanish Fly” (from ‘Van Halen II’) and “Little Guitars” itself is one of the band’s most joyful songs. Eddie’s riff almost seems to be bouncing around during the song.
• 9. “1984/Jump” – ‘1984’ (1984)

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  Van Halen’s lone number one hit is, of course, the synth-heavy “Jump,” because irony is just funny like that sometimes.

• 8. “On Fire” – ‘Van Halen’ (1978)

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  Closing out Van Halen’s self-titled debut, “On Fire” sends listeners out on a hard rock high note (literally) with DLR and Michael Anthony’s wails of “I’m on fire!” It’s the type of closer that immediately just makes you want to start an album from track one again and go for another ride.

• 7. “Unchained” – ‘Fair Warning’ (1981)

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  Take a look at this! Some songs are just tailor-made to be performed in massive arenas, and “Unchained” is one of them. From the chugging opening riff to the group vocal on the chorus, “what a rocker” this song is!
• 6. “You Really Got Me” – ‘Van Halen’ (1978)

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  Van Halen had a way with covers and really had a knack for putting their own spin on classics, especially a rock standard like “You Really Got Me.” It’s undoubtedly VH’s best cover and can easily stand up to the original by the Kinks. Of course, it didn’t hurt to have a lead in like “Eruption” either.

• 5. “Mean Street” – ‘Fair Warning’ (1981)

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  Serving as the opening track on Van Halen’s fourth studio album, “Mean Street” is a unique standout not just on the LP but in the band’s entire catalog. Dave, Eddie, Michael and Alex all shine on this track, and it’s a shared spotlight that’s hard to ignore.

• 4. “Ain’t Talkin’ ‘Bout Love” – ‘Van Halen’ (1978)

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  The final single from Van Halen’s stellar debut album, “Ain’t Talkin’ ‘Bout Love” remains a mainstay of rock radio over four decades after its initial release. It’s easy to understand why with its brash chorus and ridiculously memorable lines like “You know you're semi-good lookin'/And on the streets again.” Oh, and that opening riff is just killer.
• 3. “And The Cradle Will Rock…” – ‘Women And Children First’ (1980)

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  “Have you seen Junior's grades?” More than just a little tongue in cheek lyrically, “And the Cradle Will Rock…” famously gave fans the first taste of Eddie Van Halen dabbling with keyboards, without taking away from his guitar. That sure had some decent returns down the line!

• 2. “Eruption” – ‘Van Halen’ (1978)

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  In 1:42 and only the second track into Van Halen’s debut album, Eddie Van Halen cemented his status as a guitar god, and there was no turning back. “Eruption” is so ingrained in rock culture now it’s almost difficult to think of a time without it. It’s the solo that inspired countless people to pick up a guitar; it also caused thousands of six-stringers to sit dumbfounded, trying to figure out how EVH played the damn thing in the first place. Perhaps, it’s both.

• 1. “Runnin’ With The Devil” – ‘Van Halen’ (1978)

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  Out the gate, Van Halen just weren’t messing around. They were young, hungry and with a mission statement like “Runnin’ With The Devil,” they told you who they were right away. When you’re “livin' at a pace that kills,” there isn’t time for pleasantries. In a debate on the best opening track from a debut album ever, “Runnin’ With The Devil” is always part of the conversation, and it may well be the greatest. In the case of this list, we think it’s Van Halen’s best song ever. Simply put, this song is perfect, even when you isolate DLR’s vocals.

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Author Erica Banas // Rock Music Reporter

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